Executive Board Meeting – Dec 16, 2024

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

Present:  Ric Coombe, David Kukle, Steve Walker, Bud Gladstone, Ed Snow, Glen Faulkner, Ritchie Gabriel, Jeff Gearhart, Bill Federice, David Edinger

Others:  Jeff Baker, Tim Cox, Jason Merwin, Jessica Fiedler, Michelle Yost, Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Conesville Town Board members Frank Losito & Bill Amend, Mary Crisafulli, Elizabeth DeFalco, DEP Assistant Commissioner Shilo Williams, Cher Woehl

1.  Call to Order:  Ric  called the meeting to order at 6:15 pm.

2.  November 18, 2024, Meeting Minutes Approval:  Motion to approve the minutes made by Bud Gladstone and seconded by Ed Snow. Motion carried.   

3.  Guest Speaker:   Ric introduced our guest speaker, DEP Assistant Commissioner Shilo Williams, to the board members and meeting attendees.  Asst. Commissioner Williams began by providing the members with information on her background, which included 20 years working on watershed protection in Sitka, Alaska.  She then proceeded to give updates on some of the DEP activities, including the status of the Delaware Aqueduct and tunnel repairs.  Asst. Commissioner Williams provided background on the Delaware Aqueduct project, which was out of service to support the tunnel repairs.  She shared that DEP had made the decision in early November to bring the aqueduct online again.  This decision was based on the extreme drought NYS was encountering.   Having the aqueduct closed was compounding the drought issues presented to the NYC water supply.  DEP is anticipating the tunnel repair project will resume in October 2025.  Asst. Commissioner also provided a brief update on the expansion of cellular coverage areas, a project still in the infancy stages, and DEP’s interest in using city owned land for solar farms.  After the updates, Asst. Commissioner Williams opened the floor to questions.  David Kukle asked if DEP will be working work with the communities on the cellular project.  He suggested possibly
establishing a sub-committee comprised of members from some of the towns   David Edinger agreed with this suggestion stating that many communities have issues with the current emergency communication systems and participation on this project would ensure these issues are addressed.  Asst. Commissioner Williams agreed that this was a great suggestion and would bring it forward for consideration. 

Ric closed the discussion by thanking Asst. Commissioner Williams for taking time from her busy schedule to attend our meeting.  Ric expressed his appreciation to Asst. Commissioner Williams for her willingness to work with CWT as we move forward.  This sentiment was echoed by Bud, on behalf of WAC, and Jason Merwin, on behalf of CWC.   Glen also expressed his gratitude on behalf of the Town of Middletown for Asst. Commissioner Williams and DEP’s positive cooperation on the potential land swap opportunity.  Asst. Commissioner Williams shared that land swaps are an exciting new ground for DEP, and she looks forward to evaluating these opportunities. 

4 & 5.  LAP/SAP Negotiations/Status of Amended City CE to State Updates:  Jeff gave an update on the negotiations, saying they are going very well.  At the last stakeholder meeting all major issues were resolved, and there are only a few minor issues with resolutions in the works.  Jeff shared that the attorneys are working on the drafts of all agreements.  On the solar issue, Jeff shared that they reached a majority agreement which included the 2–5-acre limitations and the required levels of approval within the towns before a project could begin.   

Jeff did state that there is one issue still to be resolved regarding the CSAP program and the city’s acquisition of land.  Language is being proposed that gives the towns/villages the ability to decide if they want to propose parcels in private hands that could be purchased by the city.  Jeff gave the background on the issue, sharing that Delaware County is opposed to this language.  There was much discussion on this amongst Board Members, with members representing Ulster County, Greene County and Sullivan County supporting the idea of allowing the towns/villages to be the decision makers on the potential sale of land to the city in priority areas 3 & 4.   Delaware County is opposed, and input from Schoharie has not been provided yet.   During the discussion, Ed asked if the language would apply to all counties across the board, or can it be drafted so that individual counties or municipalities can opt out of making the decisions on selling land to the city.  Jeff stated that this is a legal question to be discussed with the various attorneys.  Jeff stated that the language as proposed allows for maintaining control by the municipalities by giving them the choice to offer land for sale to the city.  He did share that if CWT wants to pursue language that provides for this decision on a county or a town basis he will follow that direction.  Ric shared that these type discussions, which address the pros and cons and where not everyone is in agreement,  are very beneficial to identifying a solution.  He asked that board members think about this more and at our January meeting we can work to produce options for Jeff to pursue.

6. CWC Report:  Jason shared that CWC is progressing well with the various contract amendments they are working on, including the Shokan Wastewater Project contract and the Public Education contract with the city.  He also said they are working on the renewal of the Local Consultation contract which provides funds to the towns to assist with review of their CCAP projects. 

Jason also shared that FEMA finally provided the funding to support elevating properties above the flood levels.  Two years ago CWC requested $1 million in funding to support working on 6 properties that were severely impacted by the floods.  FEMA is providing 90% of the $1 million with CWC providing the remainder.  Work will be done on these 6 properties at no cost to the homeowner.   Jason did want to reiterate that these funds are for those properties impacted during the major floods several years ago.  Jason shared that this was a unique situation as normally a non-profit organization (CWC) does not request funding support, but rather the request come directly from the towns/villages/counties.

7.  Warrants and Treasurer’s Report:  Bud reported that as of November 30, 2024, the checking account had $2,184.28, the savings account had $80,542.66 and the CD had $50,000.  Steve Walker made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Glen Faulkner.  Report accepted.   Bud presented warrant #112 in the amount of $4,046.10 for payment of November legal fees and administrative support fees.  Ed Snow made the motion to pay warrant #112, seconded by Bill Federice.  Motion carried.   

8.  Other:  Bud raised an issue regarding DEP property where the streams are filled with downed trees and debris thus causing flooding.  He asked if there can be a mechanism and agreement with DEP put in place that will allow the municipalities to correct these problems in a reasonable timeframe.  Current process requires the municipality to send information to DEP describing the problem, and then wait until they have had a chance to review and evaluate it before rectifying the situation.  This often takes long periods of time before the problem is fixed.   Ric communicated that stewardship is important and there needs to be mechanisms in the watershed that will get the right people together in a timely manner to make the necessary decision that will resolve the problem.   He said we need to work with DEP on a way to get the key decision makers involved in a timely manner.  But he also cautioned that we need to be diligent on what situations would be considered emergencies that warrant an immediate decision and solution.   Jason shared that CWC has an emergency debris cleanup program that will assist with the cleanup of debris, noting that this program assists on emergency debris not debris that build up over a period of time. 

Ric acknowledged the guests from Conesville, Town Board members Frank Losito and Bill Amend,  and thanked them for attending the meeting.  Ric shared that CWT encourages and welcomes attendance from the towns and villages. 

9.  AdjournMotion to adjourn was made by David Edinger,  seconded by Ed Snow.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 7:40 pm.

Executive Board Meeting – Nov 18, 2024

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

Present:  Ric Coombe, Scott Grey, David Kukle, Bud Gladstone, Ed Snow, Glen Faulkner, Will Outsen, Jeff Gearhart, David Edinger, Greg Vurckio

Others:  Jeff Baker, Tim Cox, Jason Merwin, Jessica Fiedler, Michelle Yost, Mary Crisafulli, Elizabeth DeFalco, Cher Woehl

1.  Call to Order:  Ric called the meeting to order at 6:17 pm.

2.  August 19, 2024, Meeting Minutes Approval:  Motion to approve the minutes made by Bud Gladstone and seconded by Ed Snow. Motion carried.   

3. & 4.  LAP/SAP Negotiations/Status of Amended City CE to State Updates:  Ric and Jeff provided an update on the negotiations stating that there is very positive momentum regarding the more significant changes being requested.  Jeff shared that discussions on the CORE LAP are going very well, and that they have established smaller workgroups to address the open items, including the licensing agreement. 

On the amended City CE to State negotiations, Jeff shared that they are very close to a full agreement.  However, there is an issue that is still in discussion and Jeff requested input from the board members on what stand CWT will take.  The issue deals with the City’s use of land for solar power projects.  The City agrees that all solar power projects will be subject to local land use regulations.   However, some of the environmental groups have raised concerns on how much land the City uses for these solar farms.  Jeff asked the board members if there should be limits on the amount of land and forest that can be used for solar farms.  He shared that one option is to allow 2 acres per project.  Another option is to allow up to 5 acres per project.   And the final option discussed was to allow each town/village to establish their limits.

Ric  shared that solar farms, in the right places, are positive for our communities.  In response to Bud’s concern regarding the City using farmland Ric agreed that should not be taken by the City but a solar farm on unused land is a good option.   After much discussion amongst the board members, it was agreed that CWT is supportive of solar projects by the City with the 2-acre/5-acre maximum restriction.  Jeff reminded everyone that while it is up to the City if they want solar farms on their land, DEP and in some instances DEC, approval is required and the projects must meet the local laws before moving forward.   Board members also agreed that the amendment must include language that protects prime soil lands. 

Jeff shared there was nothing new to report on the progress of the State Wetlands regulations. 

5. CWC Report:  Jason provided the following CWC report:

  • Agreement was reached on the contract for the Shokan Wastewater Plan project. 

Ed expressed his thanks to CWC for their support in loaning the funds needed by the Village of Walton. 

6.  Warrants and Treasurer’s Report
Bud reported that as of October 31, 2024,
the checking account had $6,914.55,
the savings account had $73,732.76,
and the CD had $50,000. 
Glen Faulkner made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by David Edinger. Report accepted.  

Bud presented warrant #111 in the amount of $4,031.03 for payment of October legal fees and administrative support fees. 
Ed Snow made the motion to pay warrant #111, seconded by Greg Faulkner. 
Motion carried.   

7.  Other:  Ric shared that there have been many conversations regarding the shortage of water due to the drought and the impact on aqueduct projects.  He suggested we invite Assistant Commissioner Shiloh Williams to our next meeting for discussion on this.   Board members agreed.

8.  Adjourn:  Motion to adjourn was made by Greg Vurckio,  seconded by Bud Gladstone.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 7:00 pm.

Executive Board Meeting – Oct 21, 2024

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

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Present:  Ric Coombe, Scott Grey, David Kukle, Steve Walker, Bud Gladstone, Ed Snow, Glen Faulkner, Ritchie Gabriel, Jeff Gearhart, Bill Federice, David Edinger, Greg Vurckio

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Others:  Jeff Baker, Jason Merwin, Jessica Fiedler, Nick Carbone, Elizabeth DeFalco (The Reporter), Tim Hefferman (NY Times), Cher Woehl

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1.  Call to Order:  Ric  called the meeting to order at 6:17 pm.

2.  August 19, 2024, Meeting Minutes Approval:  Motion to approve the minutes made by Ed Snow and seconded by Steve Walker. Motion carried.   

3. & 4.  LAP/SAP Negotiations/Status of Amended City CE to State Updates:  Ric opened the discussion sharing that it had been a very busy and productive couple of weeks.  He acknowledged all the efforts of Delaware County, the City, DEC, DEP and the various stakeholders commending them for coming together and working with CWT in attaining a significant and positive change to the Core LAP program.  It was through these efforts CWT was able to explain and obtain the full understanding that the science does not support the land acquisitions in Areas 3 & 4.   Jeff proceeded to provide the details of this change explaining that the City is stopping land acquisitions in Areas 3 & 4 with the following exceptions:

  • DEP will continue with the acquisitions tied to the  NYC Flood Buy-Out Program in all areas
  • DEP will continue to acquire WAC and Forestry Easements in all areas
  • Acquisitions currently in progress in Areas 3 & 4 will continue
  • DEP will cease solicitations and responses to inquiries from landowners in Areas 3 & 4
  • Parcels may be acquired if a Town/Village in Areas 3 & 4 identifies and offers said land for acquisition

Jeff further reported that all parties at the “negotiation table” have agreed to this principal change in the land acquisition program.  He shared that the Core LAP will be embodied in the new Water Supply Permit which will be in effect by 2026.  He emphasized to the members that this is a major step forward and accomplishment for CWT.

Next item Jeff reported on was the Amended City CE to the State, again sharing that there have been extremely positive discussions.  He informed the members that these negotiations are close to being finalized with 90% of the issues resolved.   The amendments to the conservation easement language are intended to allow more flexible uses,  with allowances for power lines, minor parking areas, etc.

One area still in discussion deals with the use of land for solar power.  The City wants the option to use its land to establish solar farms.  The environmentalists want to see restrictions on this, specifically where it relates to clearing the forest land and extra buffers for watercourses.  This will be further discussed at the next meeting to be held in November.    Jeff reiterated that if a Town/Village has land use regulations applicable to solar farms, such as clearing limits, these regulations will be applicable, and the City cannot overturn them.  David (Kukle) suggested that the Towns/Villages review their current regulations to determine if they include such language.  If they don’t, he suggested the Towns/Villages explore adopting regulations for this scenario and referred the members to the Catskills Guide to Solar Facility Development for Local Governments for guidelines to develop their language.  The detailed guidelines are attached to these minutes, or you can access via the following link: https://catskillcenter.org/news/2024/7/1/catskill-center-releases-guide-to-solar-facility-development-for-local-governments-in-the-catskills

Regulatory Upgrades 2.0 (as they are generically referred to) were discussed next.  Jeff shared that the City needs to make the necessary investments in the Wastewater Treatment Plants.  Technology is changing rapidly and moving to a new standard in wastewater plants.  The Coalition has pointed out that the City has an obligation to support the needs to upgrade the wastewater plants.  The City is aware of this need and is currently discussing to what extent they can provide the support. 

Jeff followed with an update on State Wetlands draft regulations, stating that they are still waiting for the State to finalize the regulations.  Once these regulations are finalized DEP will need to revise their rules on how much wetlands they will be regulating.   In the interim, the City has indicated that the regulations will apply to what is currently mapped.   David (Kukle) asked members if they understood why these wetland changes are occurring.  Jeff proceeded to provide a brief explanation, citing that because of legislation enacted a year and half ago DEC will no longer be limited to regulating only mapped wetlands.  The legislation was enacted so that the wetlands no longer have to be on existing maps but can include wetlands that have not already been mapped, similarly to how the Army Corps of Engineers regulates wetlands.  This is causing significant issues in identifying what is a wetland, who will have the jurisdiction to identify a wetland and how the determination will be made.   Ric emphasized that our Towns/Villages in the watershed want to be treated the same as everyone else in the State.  If there are different rules because of being in the watershed, then our Towns/Villages should not be responsible for any additional costs that may be incurred.   Jeff reiterated that there are still several discussions to be had before these issues are resolved and regulations are defined. 

5. CWC Report:  Jason provided the following CWC report:

  • CWC is anticipating a positive partnership with the new Assistant Commissioner, Shiloh Williams.  Ms. Williams has experience in watershed management and has an office at the CWC facility in Arkville which will make for a good working relationship.
  • Funds were secured to move forward with the Shokan Wastewater Plant project.  CWC required an additional $30 million to proceed due to cost increases post -covid.  Discussions with the commissioner resulted in a feasible and acceptable agreement regarding obtaining the funds.   Ric commented that reaching a solution to this issue further demonstrates how the City, CWC and CWT are working together as partners to achieve solutions that are agreeable to all.  

6.  Warrants and Treasurer’s Report:  Bud reported that as of September 30, 2024, the checking account had $9,984.08, the savings account had $73,670.17 and the CD had $50,000.  Ed Snow made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Glen Faulkner.  Report accepted.  
Bud presented warrant #110 in the amount of $3,771.00 for payment of August-September legal fees and August-September Administrative Support fees.  Steve Walker made the motion to pay warrant #110, seconded by Bill Federice.  Motion carried.   

7.  Other:  Ric raised the question regarding the county/town/village membership dues—Do we leave as is for this year or do we revise?   Members wanted to leave the dues as is.  Greg Vurckio made the motion to keep the County/Town/Village membership dues the same for the current (2024) billing, seconded by Bill Federice.   Motion carried. 

Jeff brought up the use of Zoom for our meetings.  After some discussion it was agreed that we will continue with the current procedure for the use of Zoom which follows municipal guidelines.   A quorum will be determined by the number of Board members present in person at the meeting, and members must be present to be able to vote.  The use of Zoom will be offered on an exceptional basis, to be determined by the CWT chair. 

Ed Snow raised a question regarding if Towns/Villages can request CWC to lend funds for certain needs.  Jeff shared that Towns/Villages could apply to the Catskill Fund for the Future (CFF) program for funds.  Jason shared that where CWC can help with wastewater upgrades they want to help and do whatever they can.  

8.  AdjournMotion to adjourn was made by Bud Gladstone, seconded by Ed Snow.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 7:10 pm.    

Executive Board Meeting – Aug 19, 2024

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

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Present:  Ric Coombe, Scott Grey, David Kukle, Steve Walker, Bud Gladstone, Will Outsen, Bill Federice, David Edinger, Peter DiSclafani

Others:  Jeff Baker (via ZOOM), Tim Cox, Jessica Fiedler, Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Michelle Yost, Elizabeth DeFalco, Cher Woehl

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1.  Call to Order:  Ric called the meeting to order at 6:16 pm.

2.  June 17, 2024 Meeting Minutes Approval:  Motion to approve the minutes made by Bud Gladstone and seconded by Steve Walker. Motion carried.   

3.  Election of CWT Officers:  Steve Walker nominated Ric Coombe for Chair; David Kukle for Vice-Chair and Bud Gladstone for Treasurer.  Steve then recommended a unanimous ballot vote.  All attending executive board members voted in favor of the recommendation thereby confirming election of Ric, David and Bud to the respective offices.  

4 & 5.  LAP/SAP Negotiations/Status of Amended City CE to State Updates:  Jeff reported that negotiations are going well and there has been significant progress on all issues to develop and implement the CSAP (stewardship) program.   Moving on to the status of the Amended City CE to State discussions, Jeff indicated that there is a minor issue on the language regarding purposes clause.   He also shared that there are issues still being addressed concerning the City’s ability to use their land for solar projects.  The environmental groups are requesting more stringent requirements be established  for the City to follow when clearing lands for solar use.  Jeff shared another key area still in discussion deals with the core LAP program’s continuation with fee acquisitions in areas 3 and 4.   CWT stands firm in its position to end further acquisitions for areas 3 and 4.   Jeff reported that the next negotiation meeting will occur in early September where these items will be discussed.

Ric shared that Shiloh Williams has been appointed to the City Source Water Protection Program.  Ric has been in communication with Ms. Williams and looks forward to CWT collaborating with her.

Jeff proceeded to provide an update on the proposed State’s Wetlands draft regulations.  The draft came out in early July for review, with comments due back by September 19th.  Jeff stated that nothing in the draft regulations puts the watershed in a position that is any worse for others in the State.   The bigger issue, as Jeff shared, deals with the identification of the wetlands.  Of primary concern is the proposal to establish vernal pool complexes, which are a clustering of individual vernal pools each with wetlands vegetation and within approximately 50 feet of each other.   Vernal pool complexes create issues with the protected adjacent land areas.  The wetlands protected adjacent land area is 100 feet.   Protected adjacent land areas for vernal pool complexes are 800 feet.  Another point of concern Jeff raised deals with who will have jurisdiction for identifying wetlands and how the determination will be made that an area is a wetland.  DEP is proposing to limit their jurisdiction to the wetlands mapped out by end of 2024.   DEC however, will not have any wetlands mapped after the end of 2024.  This could pose issues on who gets jurisdiction over what is considered a wetland and how it will be mapped after 2024.  These determinations could take a significant amount of time to make, thereby causing delays in final decisions.  

One final issue Jeff shared on the draft wetlands regulations is a provision that allows for the DEC Commissioner to designate a wetland of importance if the wetland is important for protecting state water quality.   The issue lies with the lack of a process on how this will be implemented, who will be allowed to review the proposed designation, and how will the final decision be made.  Currently, there is no indication in the State’s proposal that this is intended for application in the watershed.    

In closing his update on the Wetland Regulations proposal, Jeff indicated that it would be beneficial for CWT to provide our comments on concerns regarding impacts to the watershed.  He asked for the Board Members approval to prepare a draft of these concerns for review before the September meeting.  Board Members unanimously approved Jeff’s request. 

6. CWC Report:  Tim Cox, CWC Attorney, provided the following CWC report in Jason Merwin’s absence:

  • Ongoing discussions are occurring in efforts to resolve the Shokan WWTP funding issue
  • The Stream Debris Removal Program has opened to assist towns/villages with removing debris caused by flooding which occurred during the storms from hurricane Debbie.    The program will be open September 3rd for requests for assistance.  The amount awarded per request will be up to $10,000.   Tim emphasized that this award is only for removal of debris caused by hurricane Debbie and is not for any damage repairs. 

7. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report:  Bud reported that as of August 1, 2024, the checking account had $3,189.94, the savings account had $86,289.95 and the CD had $50,000.  Will Outsen made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Steve Walker.  Report accepted.  
Bud presented warrant #109 in the amount of $8,208.58 for payment of June-July legal fees and June-July Administrative Support fees.  Bill Federice  made the motion to pay warrant #109, seconded by Steve Walker.  Motion carried.   

8. Other:  Ric opened a discussion on the county/town/village membership dues.  Questions have arisen about how the individual dues are calculated.  The dues were originally determined based on a land mass/population formula.  Ric opened the floor to suggestions on ways to equalize the membership dues, citing that the CWT issues are same regardless of the size of the county/town/village.   One proposal may be to establish a flat rate for everyone, with the ability to reassess the dues amount if its determined more dues should be paid.  Bruce Dolph, a former CWT Chair, commented that a flat rate could pose a burden on smaller towns/villages whose dues would increase, while being a benefit to the larger towns/villages whose dues would decrease.  Ric commented that this does support the use of a formula but asked if its reasonable for one town/village to pay more than another when dealing with the same issue.   Several points were made by Board Members, including the need to provide more education on the benefits of CWT and what CWT has provided, and continues to provide, to the county/town/village.   It was agreed by all that this discussion needs to continue.  Ric emphasized that while we are open to change, change does not need to be made for “changes sake” and whatever is decided needs to be enforced.   Ric also asked the members to consider options for the next discussion, and to consider if a committee needs to be established to oversee this issue. 

9.  AdjournMotion to adjourn was made by Will Outsen,  seconded by David Edinger.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 7:08 pm.

September 2024 Executive Board Meeting CANCELLED

Hi All,
We are cancelling the Sept. 16 CWT meeting.   We have several members who are unable to attend.  Also, as the negotiation meeting was cancelled, there is no new information to share.  Jeff has indicated they anticipate having the negotiation meeting in early October.   

So based on no new items to report on, no update on the negotiations and the minimal attendees, Ric has cancelled this month’s meeting.  

Enjoy the rest of September—and the beautiful weather we are having.  I fear we will be hit with lots of snow sooner than later!!!
Cher Woehl
CWT Admin. Asst

Executive Board Meeting – June 17, 2024

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

Present:  David Kukle, Scott Grey, Steve Walker, Bud Gladstone, Edward Snow, Glen Faulkner, Ritchie Gabriel, Will Outsen, Bill Federice, David Edinger, Greg Vurckio, Peter DiSclafani

Others:  Jeff Baker, Tim Cox, Jason Merwin,  Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Mary Crisafulli, Cher Woehl

1.  Call to Order:  In Chair Ric Coombe’s absence, Vice Chair David Kukle called the meeting to order at 6:15 pm.

2.  Introductions: David welcomed the new board members and introductions were made by all attending the meeting.

3.  April 29, 2024 Meeting Minutes ApprovalMotion to approve the minutes made by Scott Grey and seconded by Ed Snow. Motion carried.   

4.  Election Results:  Jeff gave a report on the 2024 executive board member election results.  New members include:  for Delaware County Glen Faulkner- Middletown Supervisor, Ritchie Gabriel (alternate)- Andes Councilman, and Jeff Gearhart (alternate)-Delhi Mayor;  for Ulster County Mary Ann Van Benschoten (alternate)-Marbletown Councilwoman and Peter DiSclafani (alternate) – Shandaken Supervisor.  Jeff clarified for the new members the role of the alternates with regards to voting as a member of the board.  Ed Snow asked what the terms were for board members, with Jeff responding terms are for 2 years.

5 & 6.  LAP/SAP Negotiations/Status of Amended City CE to State Updates:  Jeff invited new board members to reach out to him for more information on LAP/SAP and the negotiation progress.   He then provided a summary of the proposed changes to the LAP/SAP program, noting that the biggest fundamental change is that towns/villages will have the approval authority on any projects before they are moved forward.  He also shared that the changes provide for moving away from fee acquisitions. Jeff followed with a current update on the negotiations, sharing that several meetings have occurred, and that the valuation committee has produced a matrix on the license agreement.  Nick Carbone provided more in-depth information on the license agreement changes.  Jeff shared that the biggest issue deals with the understanding of conservation easements, and hopefully the revised license agreements will help to overcome this.   Will asked what the owner gives up under the conservation easement agreement.  Jeff explained that the owner must agree not to disturb the land but to keep it in its natural state.   Ed asked if the landowner agrees to the contract and then sells the land before the 10-year period of the contract what happens?  Per Jeff, the contract runs with the land, therefore it goes to the new owner.  This raised a question by Glen, who asked if after the 10 years, can the owner “walk away” from the contract.  Jeff replied that they can.  The last question on this subject came from Peter who asked if there were any issues with the tax evaluations of the land, with Jeff responding that there are no changes in that area.

It should be noted that after the meeting, Jeff learned that the licenses will not run with the land and if the property is sold, the continuation of the license will be determined by the new owner and the City.

Jeff proceeded to provide an update on the conservation easement that the City gives the state.  He shared a summary of the various components that have been agreed upon.  Jeff shared that there are continuing discussions for a 4th Side Agreement with the City for the continued funding of various CWC problems, including several dealing with funding support for the septic programs.   Jeff shared that CWT and the City are still waiting for the state’s new wetland regulations, which they need to have before they can address any remaining open issues still on the table.  

7. CWC Report:  Jason provided the following report for CWC:

  • The Septic Program and Storm Water Program are up and running
  • In early June CWC met with several government entities, including DOH, DEC, Dept. of Labor along with several executives from the towns/villages to discuss the grant funds that are available to address I & I [Inflow and Infiltration] problems.  CWC is looking at the best way to get these funds to the towns/villages to help with their needs.  He asked CWT board members to share any ideas they may have on this. 

8.  Shokan WWTP Funding Status:   Board members were provided with a copy of the letter sent to the FAD Regulators (DOH, EPA, DEC) from CWC, CWT & Town of Olive regarding the Shokan Wastewater Project.   Jason provided the history of the Shokan Wastewater Project, from its inception to its current status.  In summary, the letter requests the City provide the funding to complete this project, as it is required to do under FAD.   The letter also outlines the consequences of this project not being completed.

9. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report:  Bud reported that as of March 31, 2024, the checking account had $11,966.05, the savings account had $83,149.62 and the CD had $50,000.  Ed Snow made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by David Edinger.  Report accepted.   Bud presented warrant #108 in the amount of $11,779.43 for payment of April-May legal fees,  April Administrative Support fees and postage (to Town of Neversink) and May Administrative Support fees and postage (to Cher Woehl).  Bud Gladstone made the motion to pay warrant #108, seconded by Steve Walker.  Motion carried.   

10.  Other:  Discussion occurred on the towns/villages with outstanding membership dues   Ed suggested we put together an informational letter explaining CWT and what it does for the watershed and provide this to the various boards.   Bruce Dolph expanded on this suggesting we send our monthly minutes to all elected officials and executive members of the watershed counties, towns and villages.   After much discussion, the following was agreed to by the board members:

  • Cher to send the 2nd notification on membership dues to those towns/villages that have not paid to date.   Steve Walker made the motion to do this, seconded by Will Outsen.  Motion carried.
  • Cher to compile the contact list of all elected officials and executive members of the watershed counties, towns and villages and to provide our approved monthly minutes to these individuals.    David Edinger made the motion to do this, seconded by Greg Vurckio.  Motion carried. 

11.  AdjournMotion to adjourn was made by Ed Snow, seconded by Glen Faulkner.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 8:35 pm.

July 2024 Executive Board Meeting CANCELLED

Hi Everyone, 

Due to unforeseen circumstances some of our Exec Board members will not be able to make the July 15th CWT meeting, so we are cancelling it.  

I am sorry for any inconvenience this late notice might have caused.   Take care everyone and enjoy this hot month ahead of us…. and I will keep you posted on the August meeting.

Cher Woeh
CWT Admin. Asst.

Executive Board Meeting – April 29, 2024

April 29, 2024, CWT Executive Board Meeting Minutes

Location:  CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)

Present:  Ric Coombe, Scott Grey, David Kukle, Steve Walker, Bud Gladstone, Edward Snow, Will Outsen, Christina Viafore, Bill Federice, Greg Vurckio

Others:  Jeff Baker, Tim Cox, Jason Merwin, Bruce Dolph, Mary Crisafulli, Nick Carbone, Elizabeth DiFalco, Cher Woehl

1.  Call to Order:  Ric Coombe called the meeting to order at 6:15 pm.

2.  March 18, 2024 Meeting Minutes Approval:  Motion to approve the minutes made by Ed Snow and seconded by Bud Gladston.  Motion carried.   

3.  Report from Water Discovery Center:  Ric introduced Sally Fairbairn, Board of Trustee Member for the Catskill Water Discovery Center.  Ms. Fairbairn reported on the role of the Water Discover Center as it relates to the preservation and education of our watershed.   She shared some of the programs they are working on including Camp H2O, which has been supported by CWC educational funds; The Nature Trail, which is accomplished in partnership with Delaware County; and discussion on our town/villages drinking water vs. the water we transport to NYC.   Ms. Fairbairn invited members to the Ground Water Conference on June 7th.  This will be an all-day event, with various speakers in the morning session followed in the afternoon by a panel comprised of various municipal leaders (including our own Bud Gladstone) to discuss and answer questions on the watershed infrastructure.  Ms. Fairbairn shared that the first step is to educate our towns/villages and communities on the importance of our water and how we need to preserve it.  She is looking for input from the various counties on how to accomplish this.  Ric reiterated that we emphasize the need to protect our water as well as the water that flows to NYC.  

4 & 5.  LAP/SAP Negotiations & Status of Amended CE to State:  Ric opened this discussion by sharing that the backstop proposal concept is not going anywhere.  He credited the CWT with helping this to happen, stressing the importance of having the voice of the coalition heard.  Jeff took over the reins on the discussion by first thanking Ric and Dave for all their efforts in heading off the backstop proposal, which would have been a significant issue.   Jeff proceeded to brief everyone on the April 16th negotiations, including providing an overview of the backstop proposal and its impacts.   Ric said that the work done on this was an important example of the coalition representing the communities, coming together to get the outcome that is needed and acceptable to everyone.  

Jeff moved on to report that CSAP is moving forward with a separate committee assigned the task of working on the valuation of licenses and how to implement these changes.   Jeff stated that this is a very complex issue with many variables that need to be worked through. 

On LAP, Jeff shared that there was not a substantive discussion at the negotiations as they are waiting for more information from the city, including the maps of the wetlands.   On the Conservation Easement discussions, Jeff stated that they are getting closer to finalizing and resolving issues as raised by DEC and the environmentalists.   

6. CWC Report:  Jason provided the following report for CWC:

  • The April 2nd annual meeting went very well and was well attended.
  • The Community Wastewater Projects are moving along.
  • There were no bids received for the Community Vitality Project.  The city indicated they would not pay unless it was done through bids.  CWC is determining what the next steps are to resolve this issue.
  • Dave (Kukle) raised a question to CWC on behalf of Greene County regarding the new testing required on landfills.  Greene County is looking for funding support from CWC to help on this, especially if the towns/villages must do additional testing, which can be very costly.  Jason said CWC is looking at this to determine where they can help outside of the watershed.
  • Dave also asked CWC about the septic systems program for new and replacement systems.  He asked if the permanent septic replacement program will take care of permanent residents first before the Airbnb’s and businesses.  Ric reminded everyone that the septic program is a win for everyone involved: the owners, the city, the towns and villages. 

7.  Warrants and Treasurer’s Report:  Bud reported that as of March 31, 2024,
the checking account had $9,146.46,
the savings account had $97,993.52 and
the CD had $50,000. 
Greg Vurckio made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Will Outsen.  Report accepted.  
Bud presented warrant #107 in the amount of $7,435.68 for payment of March legal fees,  January – March Administrative Support fees and postage for mailing of election notices. 
Steve Walker made the motion to pay warrant #107, seconded by Will Outsen.  Motion carried.   

8.  Other:  Bud shared that Delaware County is in discussions with WAC easement committee to get changes to their programs regarding consent and veto rights.  Bud, who is a member of the WAC easement committee, asked if the coalition could be involved in resolving this.   Ric asked the executive committee members if they want to authorize Jeff to move forward with helping resolve these issues or do they want to have WAC request CWT involvement.  Bud suggested that it would be best to have the WAC submit a request to CWT for support on these issues.   Ric asked Bud to share this with WAC, indicating CWT would be willing to help.

Jeff reported that the election ballots will be sent on April 30th , with a due date of May 31st.  He reminded members that the ballots only go to towns and villages and not to the counties offices.

Ric shared with members that Cher is retiring from her Town of Neversink employment effective April 30th.  CWT contract for administrative support services is with the Town of Neversink.  He asked the executive board members if they wanted to continue having Cher as their administrative support, hiring her as a contractor.   The members agreed that they wanted to do this.  
Ed Snow made the motion to hire Cher Woehl as a contractor for administrative support effective
May 1, 2024, seconded by Bud Gladstone.  Motion carried.  
Ric, Jeff and Cher will complete the appropriate paperwork for Delaware County, who manages the banking and payments for services.

Several members will not be available for the May meeting.  The board members agreed to not have a meeting in May and reconvene in June. 

9.  AdjournMotion to adjourn was made by Greg Vurckio, seconded by Bill Federice.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 7:37 pm.