At the Nov 21, 2022 it was agreed that there will be no meeting in December. So… have very safe and happy holidays and we will see you in the new year!
Location: CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY)
Present: Ric Coombe, David Kukle, David Edinger, Edward Snow, Bill Federice, Steve Walker, Will Outsen, Christina Viafore
Others: Jeff Baker, Jason Merwin, Tim Knox, Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Heidi Emrich, Michelle Yost, Mary Crisafulli, Cher Woehl
1. Call to Order: Ric Coombe called the meeting to order at 6:17 pm.
2. June 20, 2022, Meeting Minutes Approval: Motion to approve the minutes made by Ed Snow and seconded by Steve Walker. Motion carried.
a. FAD Deliverables: Jeff reported that the comments on the FAD were submitted and there was overall support on the areas discussed. Jeff also shared that discussions are continuing on the SAP/Land Acquisition Program with the smaller group and DEP, with the next meeting to be held in mid-October. After that meeting, Jeff foresees opening the attendees to a broader group. Heidi asked Jeff if there is a timeline available yet for the FAD changes. Jeff shared that after the October meeting they hope to have a better sense of a timeline.
Jeff reported that he will be submitting comments to DEC on the Part 360 Regulations which deals with the solid waste regulations and requirements. The essence of these comments will be that there is no reason for heightened solid waste restrictions in the watersheds.
b. Streamside Acquisition: Nothing to report.
c. Flood Commission Reports: Nick reported that Jennifer Garigliano, from DEP, may be at the next meeting to discuss the tunnel closure and potential impacts.
d. CWC Report: Jason reported everything is going very well with no major issues. He will be having a meeting with NYC on the contracting issues but doesn’t anticipate any problems. Michele asked how often they encounter errors on the septic system replacement estimates that result in additional costs to the project. Jason shared that this is pretty much typical and that each discrepancy is looked at individual prior to approval.
e. Below the Reservoirs – nothing to report
4. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report: As Treasure Bud Gladstone was not in attendance at the meeting, Ric deputized David Kuckle as treasurer for this meeting. David reported that as of July 31, 2022,
the checking account has $611.83 and
the savings account has $132,040.61.
Steve Walker made the motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Bill Federice. Report accepted.
David presented Warrant #95 in the amount of $6,991.50 for payment of
June/July legal fees;
April-June administrative fees;
and Dropbox subscription fee.
Ed Snow made a motion to pay warrant #95, seconded by David Edinger. Motion carried.
5. Ric asked members if they agreed to cancelling the September meeting, reconvening in October as hopefully there will be more to report based on Jeff’s meetings. Members agreed. Therefore our next scheduled meeting will be October 17, 2022.
6. Adjourn: Motion to adjourn was made by Steve Walker, seconded by Ed Snow. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 6:50 pm.
The regularly scheduled third-Monday-of-the-month meeting of the CWT Executive Board has been cancelled.
Our next meeting will be Nov 21, 2022.
The regularly scheduled third-Monday-of-the-month meeting of the CWT Executive Board has been cancelled. The meetings are open to the public. For all of you who would like to join us, we will see you again in October.
Location: CWC Headquarters (Arkville, NY) and via ZOOM
Present: In attendance at CWC: Ric Coombe, David Kukle, Edward Snow, Greg Vurckio, Steve Walker, Winifred Zubin. Attending remotely: Bill Federice, Scott Grey
Others: In attendance at CWC: Jeff Baker, Jason Merwin, Tim Knox Bruce Dolph, Michelle Yost, Cher Woehl. Attending remotely: Nick Carbone, Thomas Hoyt
1. Call to Order: Ric Coombe called the meeting to order at 6:35 pm.
2. May 16, 2022, Meeting Minutes Approval: Motion to approve the minutes made by Ed Snow and seconded by Greg Vurkio. Motion carried.
a. FAD Deliverables: Jeff provided an update on the continuing discussions with DEP on the significant revisions to the Land Acquisition Program. He shared that there have been very productive meetings with Delaware and Greene Counties, including their Planning and Soil & Water organizations, where they have been identifying examples of the flood hazard and stream management projects that have successfully integrated with the Land Acquisition Program and that will work with FAD.
Jeff shared that there would be another meeting with DEP in the upcoming weeks. He anticipates in July there will be a meeting that will have much broader group in attendance. All in all, the discussions have been very promising and positive and feedback from the city has been very supportive. Jeff reminded everyone that CWT obtained approval to submit our FAD comments by July 1, 2022. He shared that the CWC comments to the FAD are very good, and for the most part CWT is in support of them.
Jeff communicated to the members his outline for the CWT comments, which will focus on two primary areas:
- CWT’s support of the revisions to the water supply permits to comply with the Land Acquisition Program (LAP) and,
- CWT’s support on the majority of the CWC comments, especially those related to the issues of contracting including the “after the fact” audits, the ongoing requests for documentation, and the delays in releasing payments.
Jeff also shared that he is proposing the need for a better mechanism for resolving contract issues, suggesting that DOH create a contract ombudsman in their office to assist with the contract issue resolution.
Jeff is recommending the only recommendation that CWT not support on the CWC comments to the FAD revisions is CWC’s request to have DEC be named as the primacy agency for the City’s drinking water. Jeff then provided an overview on the background surrounding who administers the Safe Water and Clean Water Acts for New York. DEC administers the Clean Water Act which regulates what gets deposited in the rivers and streams. DOH administers the Safe Water Act which regulates what comes out of our tap. He stated that while the recommendation from CWC to put this under one agency was reasonable, and would be more efficient, it would require significant legislative changes which would take time to occur. Tim (Knox) did clarify that CWC is recommending that primacy for the FAD be shared between DOH and DEC. Tim acknowledged that CWC recognizes this is more a ‘long-term’ solution due to the legislative changes needed to make this happen. Jason (Merwin) added that the CWC intent was to get this issue on the table to get the right parties thinking about it. Ric asked Jeff to frame the CWT comment on this in a way that is reflects our understanding of the benefits to this proposal and that we recognize it is a long-term solution. Ric also reiterated that we need to develop our relationships and communicate “our story” to the various Boards, the communities and the elected officials. The upcoming meetings with the DEP Commissioner are the first step to achieving this.
Jason shared that CWC has an upcoming meeting with the Commissioner and will be asking that they assign positions and staff to be housed in the vacant offices at the CWC building. By having staff onsite, it would result in better communications and more efficient and effective discussions on issues and potential solutions. Ric agreed, again stating that this is a partnership that must be built on trust. Working together as a partnership is the key to moving forward.
b. Streamside Acquisition: Ric addressed the comments and questions received by Steve (Walker) regarding the SAP. Specifically, Steve had concerns on:
- Town & County infrastructure maintenance and improvement as well as expansion,
- Non-compliance with local land use laws (subdivision, etc.)
- Back door land acquisitions by DEP
- Some definitions/parameters need to be clarified with respect to potential acquirable properties
While most of these concerns have been addressed Steve still had questions regarding how DEP can enter into contracts without adhering to the town subdivision regulations. Both Ric and Jeff indicated that while they haven’t seen a contract, they assume they get the town agreements before proceeding. Ric stated that these subdivision issues should be managed at the local level, thereby becoming each individual town’s decisions. If it’s okay with the town based on the contracts they have with DEP, then that may be a reason for the subdivision, clarifying that they would be looked at on a case-by-case basis. Jeff reiterated that this supports the overall goal to narrow the acquisitions to what is necessary and beneficial to provide for water quality while maximizing the amount of land that is being developed. Ric closed this discussion by acknowledging Steve’s concerns are all real issues that CWT needs to work on.
c. Flood Commission Reports: Nick (Carbone) reported that the tunnel closure will be delayed until next year.
d. CWC Report: Jason reported that CWC has been primarily working on the comments to the FAD revisions and shared that he has received positive feedback from several entities. He also reported that CWC will be providing a generalized letter to DEP regarding the evaluation of their contracts. In the past, each contract had a separate evaluation completed on how DEP administered the contract. This year, due to the FAD revisions and comments, CWC decided to provide a more generalized evaluation.
e. Below the Reservoirs: nothing to report
4. Jeff reported on the DEC proposed changes to the 360 Regulation that govern solid waste and solid waste management. What will impact CWT is the restrictions on the use of various types of fill in the watershed, including how you can use concrete aggregate, brick fill, etc. DEC is proposing severe restrictions in NYC watershed, making it like what they are doing in Nassau and Suffolk counties. It appears these changes are coming from the Watershed Inspector General, not NYC or DOH. Jeff will be working with Delaware County on the comments to these changes. He shared that the “basic rule” is that there must be a scientific basis to put in a restriction that will restrict more. If it is something that is warranted to maintain water quality for the city a compensation scheme needs to be worked out from the city as the general rule is we should not bare additional regulations that would not apply statewide solely for the benefit of the city receiving it’s FAD. Jeff shared there will be virtual public hearing on July 19th with comments due by July 25th. Nick raised the concern that this could have significant impact to composting in the watershed, with potential of closing sites. There will be several restrictions on sites adjacent to the stream corridors. Nick is scheduled to meet science consultants and will have more input on this soon.
5. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report: As Treasure Bud Gladstone was not in attendance at the meeting, Ric deputized Greg Vurckio as treasurer for this meeting. Greg reported that as of May 31, 2022, the checking account has $3,743.49 and the savings account has $131,997.93.
Dave Kukle made motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Bill Federice.
Greg presented warrant #94 in the amount of $3,132.08 for payment of May legal fees.
Steve Walker made a motion to pay warrant #94, seconded by Ed Snow.
6. Bill raised a concern regarding DEP contracts and use of local contractors. Members discussed this concern and the overall bid process.
7. Adjourn: Motion to adjourn was made by Greg Vurckio, seconded by Winifred Zubin. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 7:30 pm.
The scheduled July 18, 2022 CWT Executive Board Meeting has been cancelled.
CWT’s very own Administrative Assistant, Cher Woehl, also serves as the Town of Neversink Parks & Recreation Director.
This is an example of some of the work she is doing there. Feel free to join in the fun.
YOUR TOWN OF NEVERSINK PARKS & REC PRESENTS:
“MOVIE NIGHT AT THE GRAHAMSVILLE FAIRGROUNDS
WHEN: Thursday Nights starting JUNE 23 until September 1—unless it is raining or windy, then the movie will be rescheduled!
WHAT TIME: Movies will start between 8:30 pm and 9 pm based on sunlight!
WHERE: On the Fairgrounds grassy area by the Pavilion. Space will be available for watching from your vehicle AND for watching from your lawn chairs, blankets, etc.
CONCESSIONS: We are hoping to get food & drink (non-alcoholic) sold by our youth organizations BUT feel free to bring your own munchies!
GUIDELINES: We will adhere to ALL park rules set by the Town of Neversink. Disorderly conduct will result in removal from the Fairgrounds.
COST: Its FREE!!!!!
JUNE 28 – The Jungle Cruise – PG 13
JUNE 30 – The Sandlot – PG
JULY 7 – WILD HOGS – PG 13
JULY 14 – National Treasure – PG
JULY 21 – HOLES – PG
AUGUST 4 – The Mighty Ducks – PG
AUGUST 25 – The Goonies – PG
SEPT. 1 – The Lost City – PG 13
If no conflicts at the Fairgrounds the following movies will be scheduled for FRIDAYS:
SEPT 9 – Guardians of the Galaxy – PG 13
SEPT 23 – Jurassic Park – PG 13
A special Halloween Showing of HOCUS POCUS will be on Sunday, October 30th weather permitting.
Check our Facebook page for details on each movie: https://www.facebook.com/neversinkparksandrec
May 16, 2022, CWT Executive Board Meeting Minutes
Present: Ric Coombe, David Kukle, Bud Gladstone, David Edinger, Bill Federice, Edward Snow, Greg Vurckio, Steve Walker, Greg Kroyer, Bennett Ratcliff, Christina Viafore
Others: Jeff Baker, Jason Merwin, Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Thomas Hoyt, Michelle Yost, Cher Woehl, Anna Lehr Mueser (visiting graduate student)
1. Call to Order: Ric Coombe called the meeting to order at 6:18 pm.
2. April 18, 2022, Meeting Minutes Approval: Motion to approve the minutes made by Bud Gladstone and seconded by Steve Walker. Motion carried.
a. FAD Deliverables: Jeff provided a report of the Revised FAD that was issued for review on April 20, 2022. Jeff shared that he would be providing an overview of the FAD, when it came about and how we got to where we are today. He shared that the comments to the revised FAD are due by June 3, 2022. As the revised FAD is an extensive document requiring significant review, the members agreed to request an extension of time for submitting CWT review input. The motion to direct Jeff Baker to write to NYSDOH to request an extension for written comments on the Draft Revised FAD until July 31, 2022, was made by Steve Walker, seconded by Ed Snow. Motion carried. Jeff shared that CWT would need to go into executive session to continue the discussions on the FAD, based on the information to be shared.
b. Streamside Acquisition: nothing to report
c. Flood Commission Report: nothing to report
d. CWC Report: Jason reported that DEP issued a letter accepting the historical septage numbers. The contracts were to be effective immediately. Jason also reported that he and Tim (Cox) are working on the CWC responses to the revised FAD. A special meeting of the CWC Board will be held on May 23rd to obtain all FAD comments. Greg asked Jason if they are accepting new septic projects, to which Jason responded yes they are fully open and ready to move forward.
e. Below the Reservoirs – nothing to report
4. Members agreed to address an additional meeting information prior to Executive Session. Following items were addressed:
- Ric indicated that it is time to issue the annual dues letter. Jeff will work with Cher on this.
- Nick asked members if anyone had experienced or heard of any issues with farmers wanting to rent from DEP. He indicated that the agreements are very restrictive and extensive. Bud shared that there were issues last year with the licenses, but he has been in conversation with Paul Rush, new manager of the program, to resolve some of the issues. Ric shared that he is a lease holder for some hay land and has not experienced any issues. Members were asked to ‘keep their eyes and ears open’ and report on any problems they become aware of.
5. Bill Federice made the motion, seconded by Bud Gladstone, to move into Executive Session for further discussion on the FAD contract. Motion carried. At 6:42 p.m. CWT Executive Board Members and required attendees moved into Executive Session where Jeff Baker briefed everyone on ongoing negotiations with FAD. No actions were taken in Executive Session. At 7:15 p.m. Steve Walker made the motion, seconded by Bill Federice, to return to regular CWT meeting. Motion carried.
6. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report: Bud reported that as of April 29, 2022, the checking account has $2,349.92 and the savings account has $136,974.07. Steve Walker made motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by Ed Snow. Report accepted. Bud presented warrant #93 in the amount of $3,606.70 for payment of April legal fees. Greg Vurckio made a motion to pay warrant #93, seconded by David Edinger. Motion carried.
7. Christina asked if CWT meetings could be ‘hybrid’ meetings, being attended in person and through ZOOM. Jeff reported that after June 1, 2022, hybrid meetings would be available, making sure that everyone was aware that to have a quorum there must be at least 5 members in attendance in person. Bud suggested that Cher sends an email to members prior to the meeting to find out who would be attending in person vs. attending via ZOOM.
8. Adjourn: Motion to adjourn was made by Greg Vurckio, seconded by Bud Gladstone. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 7:19 pm.
You are invited to the CWT Executive Board Meeting on Monday June 20, 2022 @ 6:15 PM EDT.
Attend in person OR on Zoom. It’s our first “Hybrid” meeting.
At 669 County Highway 38 Suite 1, Arkville, NY 12406
Meeting ID: 821 6485 2824
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Present: Ric Coombe, David Kukle, Bud Gladstone, David Edinger, Bill Federice, Edward Snow, Greg Vurckio, Steve Walker, Winifred Zubin, Scott Grey, Greg Kroyer, Bennett Ratcliff, Christina Viafore
Others: Jeff Baker, Tim Cox, Jason Merwin, Nick Carbone, Bruce Dolph, Thomas Hoyt, Michelle Yost, Heidi Emrich, Lillian Brown, Cher Woehl
1. Call to Order: Ric Coombe called the meeting to order at 6:46 pm.
2. Ric welcomed everyone and asked Jeff to share the results of our recent elections. Jeff introduced himself to the new members (the counsel for CWT) and shared the following:
- From Delaware County – Regular members are Wayland (Bud) Gladstone, Edward Snow (new), and Winifred Zubin (new). Alternate members are Shayne Moshier, Will Outsen (new) and Christina Viafore (new).
- From Greene County – Regular members are David Kukle and Steve Walker. Alternate members are Greg Cross (new) and Greg Kroyer (new).
- From Schoharie County – Regular member is Bill Federice. Alternate member is Lester Parker.
- From Sullivan County – Regular member is Ric Coombe. Alternate member is Scott Grey.
- From Ulster County – Regular members are David Edinger (new) and Greg Vurckio. Alternative members are Drew Boggess and Bennett Ratcliff (new).
Ric congratulated our new members and encouraged everyone to participate as CWT moves forward with the focus on the future of the watersheds. 3. March 21, 2022, Meeting Minutes Approval: Motion to approve the minutes made by Steve Walker and seconded by Bud Gladstone. Motion carried.
4. Election of CWT Officers: Ric opened the vote for the new CWT officers by first sharing who the current officers are: Ric Coombe-Chairman, David Kukle-Vice Chairman and Bud Gladstone-Treasurer. Ric asked for a motion to elect new officers, either by individual positions or by keeping the current slate of officers. Steve Walker made the motion to retain the current slate of officers. Bill Federice seconded the motion. Ric called for the members roll call vote as follows:
CWT Member Wayland (Bud) Gladstone voting Yes
CWT Member Edward H. Snow voting Yes
CWT Member Winifred Zubin abstain
CWT Member David Kukle voting Yes
CWT Member Steve Walker voting Yes
CWT Member William Federice voting Yes
CWT Member Ric Coombe voting Yes
CWT Member David Edinger voting Yes
CWT Greg Vurckio voting Yes
Motion to retain the current officers was carried with eight (8) yes votes and one abstain.
a. FAD Deliverables:
- Jeff provided the history and background on the septage issue CWC with support from CWT are currently working to resolve. The issue lies with the amount of septage NYC is willing to accept from the watersheds. Jeff provided an in-depth explanation of the watershed agreements with DEP that were put in place in 1997 and then revised in 2016. Jeff then turned the discussion over to Ric and Jason (Merwin) to share the results of the meeting they had with DEP Deputy Commissioner Paul Rush on Monday, April 18th, 2022, at the DEP office in Arkville.
- Both Ric and Jason felt the meeting was very productive and positive, sharing that Deputy Commissioner Rush understood the concerns brought forward by CWC and acknowledged the oversight that occurred when DEP reviewed the watershed agreements and septage amounts. Deputy Commissioner Rush said that they are capacity constrained and need to look at options for sludge removal from their plants. He also shared that they would return to historical amounts allowed as they continue to work with CWC and CWT on short-term and long-term solutions to this problem. DEP emphasized their commitment to working towards mutual solutions and would be providing CWC a letter summarizing the meeting and short-term solution.
- Regarding the Delaware County Draft Resolution on the Septage Issue that was shared with members, Ric explained that while CWT supports the resolution, official response will be held in abeyance until the letter from DEP is received. In the event the DEP letter is unsatisfactory to CWT, then authorization will be provided to Jeff, with consultation from Ric, to move forward with an official complaint consistent with the Delaware County Resolution to the Partnership Council. David Kukle made the motion to provide Jeff this authorization, Greg Vurckio seconded the motion. Motion was carried.
- Jason shared that CWC will also move forward with a resolution to the Partnership Council in the event the DEP letter is not satisfactory.
- Once the DEP letter is received it will be shared with members and determination will be made if resolutions to the Partnership Council will be required.
- Ric closed this discussion thanking Jason, Tim (Cox) and Delaware County for reaching out to CWT for support and for assisting to lead this effort.
b. Streamside Acquisition:
- Jeff reported that the Land Acquisition Program is currently up for renewal and that SAP is currently being reviewed for extension. One focus is on how to address the many issues communities have with SAP. Jeff shared that discussions with NYC occurred in the previous week and were very positive and encouraging. Discussions will continue to move forward with small groups at first, then expanded to include others, with the goal to present a collective view to the State that has buy-in from the watershed communities.
- Jeff also reported that discussions are continuing on the conservation easements and provided an explanation on what conservation easements are and what changes they are attempting to make.
- Michelle shared that NYC is looking for a project that could demonstrate how land swapping could work and be successful.
c. Flood Commission Reports – nothing to report—Ric explained to new members what this entailed.
d. CWC Report – Jason reported the following:
- The CWC Annual Meeting had their annual meeting and reelected new board members.
- CWC is still working on negotiating the contracts reported on in previous meetings.
e. Below the Reservoirs – nothing to report
6. Warrants and Treasurer’s Report: Bud reported that as of March 31, 2022,
the checking account has $1,501.99 and
the savings account has $139,951.85.
Greg Vurckio made motion to accept the Treasurer’s report, seconded by David Edinger. Report accepted. Bud presented warrant #92 in the amount of $1,745.17 for payment of March legal fees of $573.50 and January – March administrative fees of $1,171.67.
Edward Snow made a motion to pay warrant #92, seconded by David Edinger. Motion carried.
7. Adjourn: Motion to adjourn was made by Greg Vurckio, seconded by Bill Federice. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 7:41 pm.